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Young, white and male? You’re fired

As banks step up their redundancy programmes, will young white males with little recourse to discrimination legislation find themselves at the sharp end of job cuts?

“First we had to watch out for women, then ethnic minorities, then gay and transgender people, then disabled people – and now old white boys are suddenly playing the age discrimination card. It doesn’t leave us with many people to choose from,” says an MD at one US bank.

Linda Jackson, a director of Fairplace, which provides transition services to redundant bankers, says they’ve had “a couple” of Afro-Caribbeans coming to them from banks, but that most of the redundant bankers coming through their doors are young white males. She points out that this could, however, be because most banks are disproportionately staffed by white males aged less than 35.

An aversion to discrimination claims doesn’t appear to have been uppermost in the minds of all banks making job cuts. Charles Ferguson, of Ferguson Solicitors, says he’s currently representing a female CDO trader who was made redundant after she lost £24m. Her male boss was responsible for desks which lost £750m and is still in situ. “It just so happens that all the traders who lost their jobs were women and that the bank no longer has any senior female traders left,” Ferguson says.

But he adds that banks would be stupid not to be wary of cutting people who might claim discrimination: “It ups the ante enormously – you’re talking millions of pounds in compensation as opposed to a cap of £65k for an ordinary unfair dismissal case.”

In theory, people who are sacked because they’re easy targets can bring a reverse discrimination claim. In practice, this doesn’t happen. “These laws weren’t passed to protect white males,” mulls Ferguson.

COMMENTS

kumee, Trading,  Thu 26 Jun 08

What is all this self-righteous rambling from people criticising the article (and author); accusations of poor journalism, racism... unbelievable!

Sometimes the truth hurts and, as many academics will tell you: question the popular wisdom.

Sarah quite clearly has a point. It's not what people want to hear, but that doesn't make it any less valid. This has been an issue for a sevarl years now, perhaps not a major one, but an issue nevertheless. It's not just in the employment market either.

People need to be more objective, and not so willing to blindly criticise Sarah, and the content of the website. If you find it so objectionable, go elsewhere!

P . S .    i'm not a white male.

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david.snell,  Thu 26 Jun 08

What goes around, comes around.  Does it matter what sex, colour, creed or orientation anyone is.  So you get the chop, okay there are plenty of jobs around, even if it means you have to move.  The basic fact is that most people employed in this capacity are young, male and white, consequently there will be more of them who get sacked.
If you get the sack, will it kill you?  No.
If you work in the military, will it kill you? Possibly!
Put life into perspective guys.
I have been though numerous redundancy waves over the years, and yes I have been chopped several times, butI am still here doing the bizz.

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White male, Investment Banking / M & A,  Thu 26 Jun 08

Kumee,

While I value your perspective, the point many people are making on this site is that the author is making a statement of opinion, not fact backed up by empirical evidence. What is dangerous is when people start accepting it as factually true and having a go at other people on that basis! I think it is quite inappropriate for a professional publication like Efinancial to act so irresponsibly.

I'm a white male and have many friends from minority groups and I certainly don't like this type of journalism.

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chinny,  Thu 26 Jun 08

Well easy guys and girls,racism sexism etc are still a given in the City and even though Efinancials went a bit overboard publishing this article;it all stands 2 reason that the city which employs a large proportion of young white males, that people from this bracket will be affected when the redundancy axe is hovering in the City and before people start bashing, please highlight any knowledge of or statistics of any ethnic minority, disabled,female persons who are not in this bracket that are majority; I think not..We only need to look at the highest management levels in the City to see that these posts are mostly populated by white males so it only stands to reason that they would recruit young carbon-copies/clones of themselves.......

Moving on,whether one is hit by redundancy or not, the key thing is moving on with life and making the best of the situation especially if one finds themselves suddenly without a job;this is not the US where others apart from young while males are embraced warmly in the city but there is hope for the UK someday; the key word is not giving up....

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chinny,  Thu 26 Jun 08

Funny this article was published by Efinancial careers but my comment  on (Guest comment: Don’t diss the headhunter) was edited when I mentioned a personal experience of ghost job posting by recruitment agencies talk of a case of being 2faced.....

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Mary (white female), Compliance / Legal,  Fri 27 Jun 08

Having a background in law, I am always interested when publications like Efinancial publish this type of article. I've noticed they never give the reader an indication of obvious sources of bias by the author/interviewees eg whether the lawyers interviewed are retained to defend employers or whether they represent employees. Typically these articles are written by lawyers defending banks in an attempt to discourage employees from using new legislation put in place to protect their Employment Law rights.
Given the current state of the market, it is probable that many banks are facing a higher number of claims by whites and minorities. Employers are in a very strong position, it is fairly easy for them to show they have followed a fair procedure to dismiss an employee - in contrast, it is extremely hard for an employee to prove breach of their rights. Therefore, why shouldn't an employer have to satisfy an employee they have been selected for redundancy using a fair procedure? The onus should be on the employer to prove they have nothing to hide. This article is a good strategy by employers to discourage a segment of potential litigants by branding them "toxic minorities"

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White bloke, Compliance / Legal,  Fri 27 Jun 08

Having read this article and the accompanying comments, I think the basic premise that young, white males are not protected by employment legislation is fundamentally flawed. Minorities are not automatically protected by virtue of being gay, black, disable etc. They have to show they were treated less favourably than colleagues due to their sexual preference /ethnicity/ disability. This is not an easy standard of proof - a court may require written evidence where managers have made direct reference to this characteristic to deny the employee promotion etc. Many cases never make it to court because the employee's solicitor advises they would not have enough evidence to build a case against an employer. Equally if a young, white male has evidence that they have been treated less favourably than their peers due to their age, colour, gender they would also have a case. In practice, we don't hear of many cases by this group because it is far less likely you will be passed over for promotion because you are white or because you are male - although it is more likely you may have some detriment if you are too young but equally as qualified as another older employee!

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Fair Play, Investment Banking / M & A,  Fri 27 Jun 08

The article ought to be taken down. At best it's ignorant, at worst racist.

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surrel, Asset Management,  Fri 27 Jun 08

South Africa is a special case. the whites are last of the preference list because their parents and grand parents were benefocioaries of the racist policy of apartheid which ensured that they were guaranteed education, jobs, training, promotion and higher remuneration SOLELY on the basis of being white. Subsequently their older white  family members benifited and thus acquired significant assets through employment that exploited blacks!!! So for equlaity to reign, the previously disadvantaged groups needed help from the states because the white owned firms and universities were still not prepared to allow the blacks into their schools and businesses. I lived in South Africa for 4 years, both as a banker and as a post-grad student at Stellenbosch. I nkow what I am talking about! - don't go there!!

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